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Sean M.
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by Sean M. on July 8th, 2010

When people say a light will help peds and bikers cross the road I'm not understanding! Correct me if I'm understanding wrong but since there is no straight way to go for those leaving Zach Scott once the light turned green it would be green for traffic to turn left and to turn right so I'm not seeing how this would help walkers cross. Unless we would have a green turn arrow that would come on after the light was green for a while to allow walkers to cross first then allow driverss to turn left, but as I posted earlier that just seems bizarre to think a light there to help traffic turn left and a light to let wakers go straight would take entirely too long so I just don't see how it would work out to help peds. People need to FULLY think things through and determine wether this would benefit more people than negatively effecting people. Take you own personal agendas out of the thought process and see if it honestly makes sense. Maybe you bought a house that is just going to be inconvient to cross airport by foot, there have been worse things.
 
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misselaine
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by misselaine on July 8th, 2010

Sean has a good point there. The light would have to be super long to allow for pedestrians to cross airport safely. I used to cross airport twice a day on my bike to go to ut and only had to wait as long as the traffic signals on either side, sometimes it took awhile, but it would take longer for everyone in the long run if there was a light. Also, zach scott is how we come and go and I don't think I've ever seen pedestrians crossing there! I say no to a light for sure, especially with the traffic buildup that would occur blocking tom miller. But, a cross walk, with out a light just flashing lights, might be a good idea and might make drivers slow down a bit on airport.
 
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sloneycho
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by sloneycho on July 8th, 2010

As was noted in a previous thread http://www.citicite.com//index.php?module=Forums&op=posts&ForumID=5&TopicID=2197&page=5#Post15613, the crosswalk at Zach Scott is not safe, so it isn't surprising that it isn't used much. Adding markings and flashing lights are unlikely to help given the speed of traffic on Airport at that crossing.

A nice compromise might be a signal that flashes red toward Zach Scott and flashes yellow toward Airport. Add a pedestrian button to change all signals to a solid red for safe crossing, and we get the best of both worlds. Once traffic counts indicate the need, the signals could be reprogrammed to provide protected left turns in and out of the neighborhood for automobiles during high traffic periods.

-steve
 
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AnotherPiperDown
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by AnotherPiperDown on July 8th, 2010

When you are stopped at a light, waiting to make a right turn you look and yield to pedestrians crossing in front of you in a cross walk (at least I hope you do) This is how cross walks work. There is no need for a special right hand green light, because it is understood (sometimes) that a vehicle will yield the crosswalk to pedestrians. When you are flying down the road at freeway speeds most aren't looking for people to cross the street in front of them... I don't find this concept bizarre nor do I feel it isn't FULLY thought out.

I guess my agenda is that if I go to cross Airport on my bike and I somehow miss getting clipped into my pedal or that my front tire slips out from underneath me on a patch of oil or I'm pushing my infant son in his stroller to walk in the shady neighborhood across airport, that I don't get hit by a car at 50 mph. It's a good agenda, I like it. It makes sense.

Your messages are consistently inflammatory, this time inferring those in favor of some connection for bikes or pedestrians across airport were somehow flying off half-cocked. It would seem your own agenda is that if its good for you, it should be good for everybody... and inversely, if it's bad for you, everybody should hate it.

I don't actually see how it would negatively affect anybody other than making them wait 30 seconds if somebody hit the cross walk button, something we should be doing anyways. And of course there is always the money issue which I understand. We can't have everything.

But... what evs, somebody said it well awhile back I think Adam McKeon? (I screwed that name up) and it always resonates with me when I log in... Essentially, the message was, I love my neighbors until I read the message board. I'm sure others feel the same about me. C'est la vie.
 
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smittyhoo
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by smittyhoo on July 8th, 2010

I hope this thread doesn't turn into a flame war. I believe there is room for improvement at the Zach Scott intersection. However, as someone who bikes across Airport almost every day and as a father who crosses Airport with his child in a stroller, I have to point out that it is only 2/10 mile further to the Schieffer/Wilshire intersection to ride or walk down to the Aldrich intersection where crosswalks are provided to cross on bike/access the shaded neighborhood by foot if you feel unsafe crossing at Zach Scott. Having said that, I know it is not in human nature to do anything but take the shortest route possible, irrationally regardless of other considerations. I am guilty of doing this as well.
 
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AnotherPiperDown
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by AnotherPiperDown on July 8th, 2010

I can completely agree with everything you just said.
 
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Kevin McGillicuddy
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by Kevin McGillicuddy on July 9th, 2010

Steve (sloneycho) - thanks for the link to the previous thread. Since I "joined" here after that discussion, I missed it previously.
 
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Hon
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by Hon on July 9th, 2010

As a former traffic engineer for the City of Dallas, I applause the ingenuity of simttyhoo. The only thing I would add is to show that left turning is allowed from Airport onto Antone. Of course, left turn refuge pockets have to be installed there. His design not only will reduce the traffic load at Zach Scott/Airport, it also will facilitate the traffic flow for the entire Mueller neighborhood in the long run. This design will also address the concerns of pedestran/biker safety without the installation of a traffic signal at Zach Scott/Airport until the demands meet the traffic signal warrants. It is safe, easy, and economical to implement.
Betsy, let 's suggest it to the City of Austin for their consideration.
Hon
 
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sloneycho
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by sloneycho on July 9th, 2010

While I agree that Smittyhoo's design is better for separating the left turning traffic (in at Zach Scott, out at Antone), it does little to help with the biggest pedestrian hazard, which is the through traffic on Airport. Please let me know if I am I missing something.

-steve
 
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Betsy
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by Betsy on July 9th, 2010

I'm going to send the committee a summary of the discussion here, refer to this thread, and ask for more discussion on the signal. I haven't heard from the City reps that the Zach Scott intersection definitely meets signal warrants yet, but there are clearly folks who want a signal, and those who don't want a signal. Anyway, we'll need to discuss it more at a meeting, when members from the adjoining neighborhoods can weigh in on how any proposed modifications would affect them.

Keep posting your ideas... I'm following along and will make sure the committee (which includes the City) is aware of the discussions.
 
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