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Ms Ice Monkey
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A question for Mueller's families...
by Ms Ice Monkey on May 7th, 2009

You've gotten a lot of feedback already, but I just wanted to chime in that I feel very safe in this neighborhood. I am comfortable enough to go on walks at night with my puppy (too small now to scare anyone off!) through any of the developed areas.

The design of the neighborhood makes it feel safe. The streets are well lit, the houses are close together, and there's always plenty of activity - neighbors sitting on their front porches, taking a stroll to the park, or walking their dogs.

One of the most important things about our neighborhood is how quickly we've built a strong community. We look out for each other. We use this forum to keep each other apprised of suspicious activity, to the point that crime perhaps seems worse than it is. The vast majority have been crimes of opportunity - a garage left open, items left outside. If you haven't seen it yet, this post http://www.muellercommunity.com/index.php?module=Forums&op=posts&ForumID=5&TopicID=1856 is worth a read.

Also, there are a TON of kids, and kid-oriented activity abounds. There are playgroups, a babysitting coop, and other activities organized/advertised on this forum, not to mention plenty of spontaneous get-togethers. And there's just such great parks and green space for playing. Any child would be lucky to grow up somewhere like Mueller.
 
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JennaMartin
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A question for Mueller's families...
by JennaMartin on May 7th, 2009

I think it is important to keep the historical perspective of Mueller. This is not a private development, rather it is a city planned community that was planned in conjunction with the communities surrounding it. It is not a simple matter of 'they were here first', but rather we must consider the impact the Mueller development is having on the surrounding community. While I would argue in many ways we are having a positive influence, there ways in which we negatively affect the surrounding communities, such as increased property taxes. While this might be a 'good thing' on the surface, many families on limited incomes are being priced out of their homes in East Austin. Where are they to go?

Also, saying we should keep the pools and parks closed to community members is a bit like saying Barton Springs and Zilker Park should be open to Barton Hills residents only. This is city owned property and city planned development. In fact, your tax dollars have supported this project.

I have two small children, work in an east side school and love living here. I have never felt unsafe. I really enjoy meeting people from the surrounding community and getting to know them. I also like that my children are exposed to people from different background and socio-economic situations. That is one of the reasons why I moved from west Austin to here. In fact, I am a bit disappointed that Mueller isn't more diverse, but that is an issue I can't control.

If you are looking for a neighborhood with private amenities and are uncomfortable about living on the east side, for whatever reason, than maybe Mueller isn't for you. It isn't that I wouldn't enjoy having you as a neighbor, but I must confess, I feel a bit uncomfortable with some of your insinuations.

Best of luck in making your decision. I hope you can come see that living in East Austin isn't what some people suggest- rather it is a wonderfully warm and safe place to raise a family.

best-

Jenna Martin
 
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Elizabeth
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A question for Mueller's families...
by Elizabeth on May 7th, 2009

Well, don't worry Jenna!...we decided to move to Tarrytown instead! (joking) - ha.ha.

Come on, lighten up - you are living in East Austin - these are valid concerns...it's okay. Mueller is a great community - a model community in my opinion.

It's great that everyone feels relatively safe living there - that is all I needed to know. Thanks! : )
 
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JennaMartin
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by JennaMartin on May 7th, 2009

You're right, I should lighten up, but I'll do that when people stop stereotyping East Austin and the families I have worked with for 6 years.
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Sorry, I really don't mean to be rude and I don't mean to offend, but I just don't agree with your assessment of East Austin nor the idea of nonpublic areas of Mueller. It just isn't that kind of place.
 
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Gil
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A question for Mueller's families...
by Gil on May 7th, 2009

After reading this whole thread, I think Jenna said it best. If you'd like any additional perspective, I'd be happy to talk with you. I've lived on the east side for the past ten years, in the neighborhoods immediately south and north of Mueller prior to moving here just over a year ago. My wife and I have two small children. We couldn't be happier with our decision to live here. Feel free to send me a pm if you'd like to talk.
 
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Elizabeth
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A question for Mueller's families...
by Elizabeth on May 7th, 2009

Thank you. I am really glad that you feel that East Austin is a great place to raise a family.

We do love Mueller, and, I think that some may have taken my concerns/comments about the parks being so accessible to the public kindof out of context...or, maybe it came across the wrong way...email can be a tough way to try to express yourself.

Hear about some crime in East Austin on the news, through friends out here, etc..., just wanted to do a bit of research before we take the final plunge...

To Jenna: I am sure that all of the families in and around East Austin are very nice!!! - so good luck with the families that you are working with - they were never my concern.
 
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sloneycho
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A question for Mueller's families...
by sloneycho on May 7th, 2009

Elizabeth -

I really appreciate you toning down that last post. The original was way out of line. The folks living at the Kensington are our neighbors, and I expect people to treat my neighbors with some respect.
 
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smittyhoo
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A question for Mueller's families...
by smittyhoo on May 7th, 2009

Historical data on crimes can be easily found on the internet. Before reviewing the PDF it's also important to review this page first where they mention:

"*Don't rely on statistics alone. Statistics can lead to false impressions. For example, locations near shopping centers or commercial property may appear to have a high crime rate simply because of minor shoplifting cases.

*Gather a variety of information. Visit neighborhoods and observe the surroundings. Are the homes and yards well-maintained? Are residents walking with children or pets? Are children playing unsupervised? If so, residents probably feel safe. Are burglar bars frequently used? If so, residents have probably experienced significant crime. Talk to residents or contact neighborhood associations for more information. "

Basically, the APD is stressing the importance of qualitative assessment over quantitative. ZIP Codes are large areas with their own micro-environments.

http://www.cityofaustin.org/police/zipcode/zipcode.cfm

http://www.cityofaustin.org/police/zipcode/zipcode/zip_2008.pdf

There are bad people and bad things happen everywhere.

Before moving to Mueller, we lived in the DC exurb of Loudoun County with the highest median income of any county in the US and in Great Falls, VA, which is an extremely weatlhy city. Extremely violent crimes of the type I don't need to graphically get into happened in these places too.

The important thing to remember with crimes involving children is that the majority of them are not random (despite the media's portrayal of the omnipresent child predator waiting on every corner). In the majority of cases, crimes involving children involve relatives, family friends, etc.

Of course it can't be guaranted that something negative will never happen in Mueller, but I am confident that the design and open social network this design encourages should arguably make it safer than your average suburban/exurban community. It is obvious when walking/biking/driving through the community that the people who love in this community care, and that is the penultimate factor towards all manner of success, including making the neighborhood a safer place.
 
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Elizabeth
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A question for Mueller's families...
by Elizabeth on May 8th, 2009

A note to everyone who thinks I am 'sterotyping' East Austin and/or finds my concerns to be offensive:

I grew up in a low income inner-city neighborhood, - my younger years growing up there were in enlightening in many ways, but, it was also a struggle. I want my child's life to be easier than mine was and there is nothing wrong with that!

Yes - I don't want my child to be approached by a drug-dealer, or, some child predator coming in from outside the neighborhood when he is playing at the park.

So, that is why I was asking you ?s about how you truly feel about living in the community since it is a community that borders on inner-city neighborhoods and I KNOW exactly what is there because that is where I come from!!!!!

Looks like this could be the neighborhood...I don't need any more rude remarks for my vaild concerns however as I am beginning to get quite turned off of the community by some of them.

Thanks again to everyone who was helpful for the information.
 
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