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Johanna McKinzey
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Cars towed at Lake Park
by Johanna McKinzey on August 25th, 2014

Hi Neighbors,
If you're planning a trip to the Thinkery that involves driving you might want to park on the street or in the parking garage. I just walked by the parking lot (about 10:30am) at Lake Park to see four tow trucks loading up cars. One of the tow truck drivers (granted, not the best source for information) told me that the lot was for "residents" and said that a spotter had marked the cars of people who'd "walked off." I asked how he knew which cars belonged to residents and he said that residents should have "a tag". At the entry to the lot closest to the Thinkery it very clearly states that the lot is not for Thinkery parking and that towing would be enforced. I hope not too many kiddos came out to find their cars gone! I have been guilty of parking there and heading to the Thinkery, but won't be doing that anymore!
 
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Mateo Barnstone
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Cars towed at Lake Park
by Mateo Barnstone on August 25th, 2014

So much bad information from one tow truck driver.

1. The parking lot for Lake Park is not for residents. It's open to the public visiting Lake Park, whether residents or not. I suspect not a lot of residents use this as it's pretty easy to walk or bike to the park.

2. There is no resident "tag" that I am aware of.

3. They were probably towing folks using that lot and heading right to the Thinkery. I know of no way they could determine who was a resident.

4. The lot for Lake Park should not be used for the Thinkery - there is the large parking garage with plentiful parking just behind it for that purpose. The Lake Park lot is for the Lake Park. Unfortunately, lots of folks visiting the Thinkery just pull into it.
 
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Linnea Kullman
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Cars towed at Lake Park
by Linnea Kullman on August 25th, 2014

This morning my elderly mother was walking the park and her car was towed for no valid reason, Her experience was awful. Please see my yelp review on reliant towing.

http://www.yelp.com/user_details?userid=G6k-QhZ7PxmYwimd4I8zuw
 
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Sol Acosta-Houston
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Charlene Ansley
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Cars towed at Lake Park
by Charlene Ansley on August 27th, 2014

Apparently being a Mueller resident will not prevent your car from being towed. If you look closely at the signs at the entrance of the Lake Park parking lot there's a line in the middle of the text that says:

"If you leave the property your vehicle will be towed."

I find that very disturbing, however when I mentioned it to Jennifer Harvey, who is the Mueller Community Manager for Alliance Association Management, she didn't understand my point. It's interesting that the Thinkery would say they had nothing to do with the towing, because Jennifer told me that they had been begging her for months to start towing.

But however this was initiated, I'm wondering why. Why such a huge and self-defeating effort to control where people park and where they go after they park? There are plenty of options for parking, the lot at the park, the garage, the lot behind Mueller Central, the street. Wouldn't it be better to let first come-first served prevail as is the common practice? Yes, some people will be inconvenienced, but those are the rules of parking that we all understand. Why contract with and enrich a sketchy towing company, piss off and inconvenience and create a financial burden for people and children who come to Mueller to work and play, and therefore chip big hunks out of any good will Catellus has developed with the residents and the surrounding communities? I don't get it.

Spoiler alert: My vehicle was towed even tho I didn't "leave the property," the fee was close to $200 which I am probably going to have to go to JP court to recover, and my discussion with Jennifer about this was quite puzzling.






 
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Jim Raup
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Cars towed at Lake Park
by Jim Raup on August 27th, 2014

the rule from the very beginning has been "no Thinkery parking" in that lot. it makes no difference what anyone thinks about that rule. it is the rule, and I am glad the towing has begun.
 
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Johanna McKinzey
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Cars towed at Lake Park
by Johanna McKinzey on August 28th, 2014

It seems as though it would be difficult at best to determine who has "walked off of the property" when many people park in the Lake Park lot and the walk AROUND the lake. I'm sure to a spotter it would appear as though they were leaving when it fact they are there legitimately visiting the park. I understand wanting to encourage Thinkery visitors to use the designated garage, but I agree that towing those who have parked in the lot and "walked off" for their exercise will certainly not endear them to our neighborhood. I hope that the Thinkery is at least warning their guests that towing is happening in the Lake Park lot.
 
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Johanna McKinzey
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Cars towed at Lake Park
by Johanna McKinzey on August 28th, 2014

It seems as though it would be difficult at best to determine who has "walked off of the property" when many people park in the Lake Park lot and the walk AROUND the lake. I'm sure to a spotter it would appear as though they were leaving when it fact they are there legitimately visiting the park. I understand wanting to encourage Thinkery visitors to use the designated garage, but I agree that towing those who have parked in the lot and "walked off" for their exercise will certainly not endear them to our neighborhood. I hope that the Thinkery is at least warning their guests that towing is happening in the Lake Park lot.
 
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Johanna McKinzey
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Cars towed at Lake Park
by Johanna McKinzey on August 28th, 2014

It seems as though it would be difficult at best to determine who has "walked off of the property" when many people park in the Lake Park lot and the walk AROUND the lake. I'm sure to a spotter it would appear as though they were leaving when it fact they are there legitimately visiting the park. I understand wanting to encourage Thinkery visitors to use the designated garage, but I agree that towing those who have parked in the lot and "walked off" for their exercise will certainly not endear them to our neighborhood. I hope that the Thinkery is at least warning their guests that towing is happening in the Lake Park lot.
 
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C. Frimire
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Cars towed at Lake Park
by C. Frimire on August 28th, 2014

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the rule from the very beginning has been "no Thinkery parking" in that lot. it makes no difference what anyone thinks about that rule. it is the rule, and I am glad the towing has begun.


Jim Raup (if that is his real name) is absolutely correct in his succinct assessment of the situation. Rules are rules and must be obeyed regardless of the unforeseen injustice and harm they may perpetrate upon the community and its individual citizens.
Otherwise, what is it that separates us from wild animals such as the laughing hyena or the menacing coyoté? Should we all just forego the norms that are the foundation of civilized modern life? Should we all tear off the clothes that bind us down and keep our social order in place, opting instead to run through the streets unclothed, whooping and baying in the night, and drinking in the moonshine that surrounds us?
 
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