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Andrea Houston
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Transportation Committee meeting notes 21 May
by Andrea Houston on May 25th, 2014

Thanks for the link Betsy. That's very helpful. It actually supports part of what I was thinking though--with enough stop signs or other deterrents people who are speeding down Berkman to use it as a cut through may go back to whatever route they used before Berkman opened through 51st.
I'm not set on stop signs or any particular remedy. I just want some solution.
I'd also be in favor of lowering the speed limit altogether, because I think that would support Mueller being a pedestrian and bike friendly neighborhood. Pedestrian fatalities increase with speed limits. And right now, if you've parked on Berkman, especially the northern sections that have the bump out for the bike lane, it can be down right terrifying to get in and out of your car with cars going as fast as they are.
 
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Andrea Houston
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Transportation Committee meeting notes 21 May
by Andrea Houston on May 25th, 2014

Thanks for the link Betsy. That's very helpful. It actually supports part of what I was thinking though--with enough stop signs or other deterrents people who are speeding down Berkman to use it as a cut through may go back to whatever route they used before Berkman opened through 51st.
I'm not set on stop signs or any particular remedy. I just want some solution.
I'd also be in favor of lowering the speed limit altogether, because I think that would support Mueller being a pedestrian and bike friendly neighborhood. Pedestrian fatalities increase with speed limits. And right now, if you've parked on Berkman, especially the northern sections that have the bump out for the bike lane, it can be down right terrifying to get in and out of your car with cars going as fast as they are.
 
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Andrea Houston
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Transportation Committee meeting notes 21 May
by Andrea Houston on May 25th, 2014

Thanks for the link Betsy. That's very helpful. It actually supports part of what I was thinking though--with enough stop signs or other deterrents people who are speeding down Berkman to use it as a cut through may go back to whatever route they used before Berkman opened through 51st.

I'm not a huge fan of roundabouts, at least not the one Mueller and Aldridge, because people clearly don't know what lane to be in to turn where. And people seem to slingshot around it to go north on Mueller from Airport. I'm not sure if the redesign is to address those issues.

I'm really not set on stop signs or for or against any particular remedy. I'm not an expert here, and most of the solutions others have proposed are completely new to me. I just want some solution.

I'd also be in favor of lowering the speed limit altogether, because I think that would support Mueller being a pedestrian and bike friendly neighborhood. Pedestrian fatalities increase with speed limits. And right now, if you've parked on Berkman, especially the northern sections that have the bump out for the bike lane, it can be down right terrifying to get in and out of your car with cars going as fast as they are.
 
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Andrea Houston
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Joined on February 21st, 2014
Transportation Committee meeting notes 21 May
by Andrea Houston on May 25th, 2014

Thanks for the link Betsy. That's very helpful. It actually supports part of what I was thinking though--with enough stop signs or other deterrents people who are speeding down Berkman to use it as a cut through may go back to whatever route they used before Berkman opened through 51st.

I'm not a huge fan of roundabouts, at least not the one Mueller and Aldridge, because people clearly don't know what lane to be in to turn where. And people seem to slingshot around it to go north on Mueller from Airport. I'm not sure if the redesign is to address those issues.

I'm really not set on stop signs or for or against any particular remedy. I'm not an expert here, and most of the solutions others have proposed are completely new to me. I just want some solution.

I'd also be in favor of lowering the speed limit altogether (assuming people obeyed it) because I think that would support Mueller being a pedestrian and bike friendly neighborhood. Pedestrian fatalities increase with speed limits. And right now, if you've parked on Berkman, especially the northern sections that have the bump out for the bike lane, it can be down right terrifying to get in and out of your car with cars going as fast as they are.
 
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danx111
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Transportation Committee meeting notes 21 May
by danx111 on May 25th, 2014

If you want to see small, neighborhood roundabouts take a ride around Hyde Park. They work well
 
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Transportation Committee meeting notes 21 May
by danx111 on May 25th, 2014

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If you want to see small, neighborhood roundabouts take a ride around Hyde Park. They work well


.....or look at Google maps, Ave. B and 41st St
 
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Susan Egan
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Susan Egan
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by Susan Egan on May 25th, 2014

The thought seems to be that Tilley St. will eventually relieve some of the through traffic on Berkman.

Have data been collected to support where the Berkman traffic is coming from and going? If cut-throughs are coming from east of Berkman, Tilley should help. But it seems like that's a long way off. Further, since it doesn't appear as if Tilley will be a divided roadway it's likely that drivers will continue to use Berkman. I'm hoping something can be done to make Berkman less attractive for cut-through traffic.

Is there data to support that additional speed limit signs and/or painting the speed limit on the pavement are helpful? Or are these just a waste of money?

Traffic circles / roundabouts or elevated platforms seem to make sense at the major intersections.
 
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Mateo Barnstone
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by Mateo Barnstone on May 25th, 2014

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If you want to see small, neighborhood roundabouts take a ride around Hyde Park. They work well


Those are traffic circles - probably not appropriate for Berkman. I agree with Betsy that Catrellus and the city need to take a good hard look at roundabouts.

And I would among those opposed to road humps - there are better solutions for traffic calming.
 
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